{"id":4674,"date":"2023-03-23T08:30:38","date_gmt":"2023-03-23T12:30:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/?p=4674"},"modified":"2023-03-29T16:41:10","modified_gmt":"2023-03-29T20:41:10","slug":"transfer-students-struggle-to-succeed-at-hunter-college","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/2023\/03\/transfer-students-struggle-to-succeed-at-hunter-college\/","title":{"rendered":"Transfer Students Struggle to Succeed at Hunter College"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_4676\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 583px\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4676\" src=\"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"573\" height=\"382\" srcset=\"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-210x140.jpg 210w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3920-310x207.jpg 310w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 573px) 100vw, 573px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Hilary Edwards is seen in the Hunter Library checking some of the books offered. She feels her advisors are lacking in their support, resulting in her having to find out information on her own. Edwards says, \u201cMy advisor now hardly reached out to me, but then again I don&#8217;t really need them.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Transfer students at Hunter College suffer through many more challenges compared to their peers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt\u2019s kinda like when you&#8217;re landing you want a cushion there instead of just falling,\u201d said transfer student Hilah Ottman, \u201cit would have been nice to have a little bit more information on how to do things.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ottman is a junior who transferred to Hunter College in the fall of 2020 from Borough of Manhattan Community College (BMCC).\u00a0 Ottman decided to transfer because she heard Hunter\u2019s nursing program was well-renowned. However, she couldn&#8217;t keep up with the many prerequisites needed to apply for the program.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI actually tried two years in a row to apply to the program,\u201d said Ottman. \u201cI had to resort to my backup option, which was public health.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A study done in 2019 by the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/nscresearchcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/SignatureReport13_corrected.pdf\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">National Student Clearinghouse Research Center <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">found that\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">44% of students who transfer from a community college to a four-year institution tend to graduate six years with a bachelor\u2019s degree after their enrollment. This is often attributed to many issues such as a loss of credits and an increase in barriers relating to their preferred major. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Transfer students at Hunter College are also given little support in their transition, causing stress and even resulting in lower grades.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Reem Ali is also a junior who majors in Public Health. She transferred from BMCC in the spring of 2022. Like Ottman, Ali struggled in her transition to Hunter due to a lack of support.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">During her first semester, Ali said she struggled to find an advisor. When she finally did, it was too late as no advisors were available. Ali then applied to classes on her own, which she found to be yet another challenge.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I would say my advisor at my old school was a little bit more helpful. My advisor now hardly reached out to me,\u201d said accounting major Hilary Edwards.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Edwards has transferred colleges twice from Pace University to Kingsbrough, then to Hunter. In the process they have lost a total of 17 credits, resulting in her status now as a sophomore.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She says she had no help from the advisors at Hunter and doesn&#8217;t plan on asking. Everything she learned had been done on her own. Edwards used Google to find out how to work CunyFirst and spent hours watching tutorials on YouTube on how to apply to classes.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cEven though Hunter has doubled the amount of students that BMCC has, they have fewer classes open for students,\u201d said Ali.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">She described the process of applying to classes as a \u201cBlack Friday sale,\u201d where students have to rush to enroll. If a student is late, even by a day, it is almost impossible to find a class that isn&#8217;t full. Ali was shocked with how fast classes closed and says she was able to enroll by sheer luck as she found a class just 30 minutes before the deadline because someone dropped it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ottoman shared a similar experience. She said that due to her also having a hard time finding an advisor, she was late to apply to classes. This caused her to have to epermit two classes at BMCC just to be a full-time student.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cTo be honest, I&#8217;m still not entirely sure exactly what transferred and what not,\u201d said Ottman. \u201cI&#8217;m kind of bombarded with a list of classes I have to take just to graduate and it&#8217;s just overwhelming.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The transferring of credits has been an issue that many of Hunter\u2019s transfer students face. Ottman says most of her credits did not transfer and she has had to repeat several classes she\u2019s already taken.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Her major was the only program that accepted a Stats course from a community college, so she decided she wanted to epermit that class at BMCC. However, the math department did not allow it and she had to take a math placement exam where she had to answer 30 questions in 30 minutes. She failed, and says she was forced to take a class under her level of expertise, which felt to her as a waste of time and money.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHonestly, my experience has been difficult. I<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> would say my first semester was especially the hardest because I was trying to navigate everything,\u201d said Ali.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4678\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 382px\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4678 \" src=\"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"372\" height=\"248\" srcset=\"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-210x140.jpg 210w, https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-content\/uploads\/DSCF3707-310x207.jpg 310w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 372px) 100vw, 372px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Hilah Ottman poses for a profile in front of Hunter College. She had many challenges in trying to find the classes she needed due to a loss of credits.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to these transfer students, Hunter College needs to start being more accommodating to students.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ali says our college must share information with 2-year colleges, ensuring that students understand which credits are allowed to be transferred over. Edwards and Ottoman say it would have been helpful to be offered advisors who understood the experiences of transfer students and gave advice catered to their circumstances.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Transfer students at Hunter College suffer through many more challenges compared to their peers. \u201cIt\u2019s kinda like when you&#8217;re landing you want a cushion there instead of just falling,\u201d said transfer student Hilah Ottman, \u201cit would have been nice to have a little bit more information on how to do [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121,"featured_media":4676,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,324],"tags":[462,486,279,401],"class_list":["post-4674","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-student-life","tag-community-hunter","tag-cunystudents","tag-huntercollege-hunterstudents","tag-transfer-students"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4674","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/121"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4674"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4674\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4821,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4674\/revisions\/4821"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4676"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4674"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4674"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brie.hunter.cuny.edu\/hunterathenian\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4674"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}